Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66338 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42643 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2013 17:58:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2013 17:58:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.176 mail-ob0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.176] ([209.85.214.176:47876] helo=mail-ob0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FB/23-25879-1BA9F215 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 12:58:09 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id v19so469072obq.7 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:58:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=XhPLePFU48jRSz9ITJEPT3ruWHK6YjkWKRRqskXS4bE=; b=BDmLHJgGjo1OzorZoRyMdL63OTZW+oi6XDlyjODIOL4czxg6jo9/6OjFSFfuDm9IH3 B092nb7Sfmu0aBofVXd5h8z2b6bYAywwJ+lU7tmPIy2tebWi8La1t/LNJ+Ox8QUmYikt KCGL6m+PGfrUeuvsVqUqAuXR6V8DUtrGHvVl03min0Ahx3YAtwTRHO1Mjgi2XPs/yHpL jilA/bLhb3hy78e3pjQgnztcNPRGSYjDXs55oeb5OtX00rrlHe7CSrfT3cAd+70xc3+z 2B2xXe73RpquX8/rvLDx+2To4KNtXmSTcdpXwk/FdOiH60pEaFCnukfyvp4e+ojYGFMg uvng== X-Received: by 10.60.172.237 with SMTP id bf13mr6470831oec.83.1362074286644; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 09:58:06 -0800 (PST) References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <3206872690693024300@unknownmsgid> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:58:06 +0200 Message-ID: <-3691992911290715954@unknownmsgid> To: Pierre Joye Cc: Nikita Popov , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnF/3hW5B/WzCZB9K8fzoSOyXLifmB7mrgMuKzwGJaSgwKSv7YM3Gsb4+U8O0z14MAGy9UXdrKOC6DpeIasvs37jiKYj/o08u9zDbjXgNO3+HKaWv9bSiglM4wGJOQTR1PTC79M Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) No. First, read what 'integration' means in the RFC or in the excerpt Chris was nice enough to send you. It means including the extension, which doesn't fall under "changing the language" in the voting RFC in any way. Secondly, even if&when we do propose to integrate it more tightly - it's debatable whether it constitutes a language change that requires a 2/3 majority. Even though I'm sure that if we manage to show substantial benefits from doing that in the future well get a lot more than 67% in favor... - Sent from my mobile On 28 =D7=91=D7=A4=D7=91=D7=A8 2013, at 19:40, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> No syntax changes, so regular majority as far as I can tell. > > Except if you want real integration included in this vote, as it will > or may affect the engine, 2/3 will be required then. > > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye