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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi Ilia,

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Ilia Alshanetsky <ilia@prohost.org> wrote:
> Zeev has an excellent point here, my own research shows that 5.4, a
> year after release had somewhere in the 2% adoption rate. The major
> reason being is the lack of a stable, production ready op-code cache.
> To release 5.5 without a good solution for that problem, would not
> make the situation better, if anything it would make it very
> intimidating to users to jump 2-3 versions directly to 5.6. Thus
> leaving us with a massive user base running legacy, unsupported
> versions containing unresolved bugs and vulnerabilities. Something,
> which I don't think would be a very good thing for the future of PHP.

I do not oppose to have O+ in core. I am only opposed to have it right
now in 5.5 given the current state of its development, stability and
lack of pecl releases.

> Ultimately, I think it is better to wait a month or two (if that is
> what it takes) and have a solid release people can safely upgrade
> their production environments to, rather than strictly adhere to a set
> release cycle and delivery a partial solution.

All distributions will provide it as a separate package anyway. For
most of our users there will be zero difference if it is core with 5.5
or in pecl only (or both). As Anthony said earlier, doing our best to
get 5.5 out sooner rather than later and move to the next step for o+,
the actual integration (no, I do not refer to cleanup legacy code in
o+ but tight integration to the engine). That will actually bring a
lot more benefits to our users.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye