Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66308 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24177 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2013 22:16:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 22:16:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.173 mail-ve0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.173] ([209.85.128.173:39634] helo=mail-ve0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DB/62-25983-2C58E215 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:16:35 -0500 Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id oz10so1151317veb.18 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:16:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VkyxB4aq5SsRLSuxsfScIhulm3v+LvVWo4JKJmP9YEU=; b=IzvEV92MYQvucltaAVj7xDWXoWbmHuRREV+haOgzLVMDYMIxGC/5KtJOW+bRbwsFnN nSpcEFY5WAEMG1WfwFd06olkqo9b3H1nDi9nofjPHeHZL6QeBm7jrjoVXstXykKUiMWX wFOXqq9fzilivhPyJ34so+9E2eeRwQjsTXO2IYtOybierKSxrPRFroQ2XuDTj2LroBvV 5GADxQL8HfPeYfsEehvo6voEZStROFod+LCWLJGvPKv7Hc3AgXfYEeBxTJxabISfy4c2 EoeYXooURiHO/IuFTI9ihkDEhHN0nYoW6D7Xk0Sf4dg/pKMQHUx9U2s88X+BrRDuI1+W Vc3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.23.199 with SMTP id o7mr1656817vef.2.1362003391620; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:16:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.41.195 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:16:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <512E7870.7010208@lerdorf.com> References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <512E7870.7010208@lerdorf.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 23:16:31 +0100 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Ferenc Kovacs , Zeev Suraski , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 02/27/2013 01:01 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > This is where I think we have a big disconnect. This yearly release plan > is meaningless for most people because there is no way the current > opcode cache situation can keep up with that. PHP 5.4 wasn't really > released until APC was mostly stable with it which was 6+ months after > the release. That's why having a builtin opcode cache should be a long term goal. And that's why it will be done this way. All other ways failed. > In order to actually get the project onto a feasible yearly release > cycle we need to pool the few resources we do have around a single > opcode cache implementation and push it as the one and only option as it > will force each new shiny feature to tackle opcode support from day one Exactly. Now, about the yearly release, every single person I talked to love it and want us to keep with this cycle, as well as the more frequent bugs fixes releases. One thing we have to slightly change is to push too many new features in each of them, but we will get there. cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye