Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66307 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82475 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2013 22:02:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 22:02:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adamjonr@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adamjonr@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adamjonr@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.172 mail-vc0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.172] ([209.85.220.172:34795] helo=mail-vc0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 14/12-25983-A828E215 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:02:51 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l6so741417vcl.31 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:02:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=eUL/oBCqA3TEmjwIVf5SlmhHrLLlWn+yFY0ob9jWeiI=; b=xW79T0i6tUabLdjNjAJiwdXA4RrG952TzjAdwQMg1bfTYnoCqZQCGmHwd1UWQR4Ciz NHKi4I3ImJiE4gLUUEGz9sBOxVkzgNExM+A/p6XG0wiqMG5WEffeZohKjTSIxrnSJ80V H6RW9YzC+/75m35aRJMchWe4VN4px4h0ueWXOqhdM5ND4vzveQzm+DH01wZ63Z45eBru 9XJF6TOOzRUi+tD6dG6XdrpirGSBvFq8BljiPxFJojuq+urnRXC7HVRAIRwBZlEfS36H 9inUxFvGk+pTj4PscRR2uilVtBNxfbH181sMUb2dwjJNpWQyUqHAOy5UTIKQuyw00Tto wkXw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.73.169 with SMTP id m9mr1337230vdv.107.1362002568225; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.213.15 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:02:48 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <512E7870.7010208@lerdorf.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 17:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Ferenc Kovacs , Zeev Suraski , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: adamjonr@gmail.com (Adam Jon Richardson) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: >> > Not sure I understand the question. O+ is compatible with 5.5, so you can > use that if you like. Just install it as an ext. Just like you would have > done with APC. > > Nikita More than ANY other language feature, having an integrated opcode cache (i.e., one that isn't playing catch up but is treated as a core requirement) would help people adopt PHP 5.5 in a timely manner. APC was buggy for quite a while after the launch of 5.4 (and know those who worked on it worked very hard, and I actually took a look at some of the bugs, but APC seemed to be beyond my skill set.) Knowing that O+ is compatible with 5.5 doesn't give me confidence that it will work well. What is the harm in delaying PHP 5.5 and trying to integrate O+ into the release? Adam