Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66294 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46857 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2013 19:31:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 19:31:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.219.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.48 mail-oa0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.48] ([209.85.219.48:64943] helo=mail-oa0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 63/B7-33355-52F5E215 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:31:50 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id j1so1960921oag.7 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:31:47 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=EjvsjDLz/sw/4JguFOzdlTGgXFrbg56cNj9zWyu5n1U=; b=EXvuTS6+qB1nKWQjIOJO004S4uxcYcolp7dLb7KegbertXU2WVwzYQGBN5HH3VkjcM ttO3L/nsrG0Zuf/8sKN2mR+R665jRKvamDh6Dc9UZPBzmJ3ojRG0RxK60AUXl2O4RQKm lHs+Kzwe6+DtNJ9+OdgFskcpyPrez5hk2nBiJ9BJwz5drMMhMq8EOvJxSq1YQ2JHc3CD /RfNuVip/AEydikY0O4tdKP4dNC0GzYMSid4tuPqik9RZFiW7H4T0qrfqyNg5WEU6wV/ yCgw98L72i/HLXFBi1VxXTZTXkCLlO1P0dn4+bq2NLi66FxsKtjtLmr+Z0qr54Hj0ks+ 9fOQ== X-Received: by 10.60.3.71 with SMTP id a7mr3437839oea.35.1361993507309; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:31:47 -0800 (PST) References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 21:31:48 +0200 Message-ID: <-8565214987830661092@unknownmsgid> To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: Alberto Viana , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmad+JDkR777EbLLhI9jdFdUCf8SpDgNGAetFpkqznHQt5An83tWEr7RnpN9JlQ50SBeBGWutDUY7PvC4aymjd+W3cmWJtmMAisnclYEDSlfhcy9Ri5tX/uSIUtqSgFnB31ZYas Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) On 27 =D7=91=D7=A4=D7=91=D7=A8 2013, at 18:58, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Zeev et al, > > I just want to put my justification for the "only if no delay" vote. I vo= ted that way because we're already at a significant delay. If this vote was= a month ago when O+ was suggested first, I would definitely have voted for= "delay". In fact IIRC I proposed a delay back then. But after a month, I t= hink delaying much further would be imprudent. > Fair enough! Here's mine for delaying: I believe our users will much appreciate a release with an opcode cache that's several months delayed vs. one that's without an opcode cache several months early. If the 5.4 adoption rate (or complete lack thereof) is any indication - very few are eagerly waiting for 5.5. In fact, in a year's time, when we all gear up to release 5.6 (based on current frequency) - 5.5 is almost guaranteed to have next to no traction in our userbase. A bundled opcode cache might be the killer feature that makes the difference. FWIW I think we should actually reconsider even striving for a yearly release cycle, but that's another story... Zeev