Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66287 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27198 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2013 18:33:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 18:33:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=cryptocompress@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 74.125.83.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: cryptocompress@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.42 mail-ee0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.42] ([74.125.83.42:46878] helo=mail-ee0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 84/B4-33355-E715E215 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 13:33:34 -0500 Received: by mail-ee0-f42.google.com with SMTP id b47so803356eek.29 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:33:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h07FR4/014iEeJBweo7vqxvWCWdA3+mJRPrnxsYaAzk=; b=rg/l4Xud3KolrsvNR9kEzF7GklLv2RLt0ojuobyJg0zW+yslf1jGFqKxa0I578NqkD dFiha01D16k6lwQXxaffEmpF2UbFK8tWhyQshRbopTzFGNfT0p6hIYxaa5LbWgsJLf14 iTlqREyBrySxy8a6V+3dh9Mkfqg+e2VkXwabDVIjZfJ4Z33gwCS5y0Gl6sRbaKM7BdAd 9eYDLHzHpswTQh63KblKKndsJNIF6MHuqUZwwUHPRcgWG6U0CcKZcwvEUAk6Oeo7nPSP bhpBLj7MzRKa2z0ME1bIbUn1S+3kkYwuGCHXIxvSUAuOI2Pp0ZLh+2nGQOHqvVztmoZY R4KQ== X-Received: by 10.15.23.193 with SMTP id h41mr8617860eeu.17.1361990011379; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.111] (mnch-4d0452bb.pool.mediaWays.net. [77.4.82.187]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46sm7818459eea.3.2013.02.27.10.33.29 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:33:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <512E5177.9090407@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:33:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <512DB820.6060908@sugarcrm.com> <512E1E1B.6020007@googlemail.com> <512E2278.3070406@2e-systems.com> <512E3DAD.90505@googlemail.com> <512E4521.4030909@googlemail.com> <512E4C98.1080502@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Add get_object_constants and get_class_constants From: cryptocompress@googlemail.com (Crypto Compress) sorry, i pollute this thread with discussion about reflection... Am 27.02.2013 19:19, schrieb Nikita Popov: > Why the heck do we want to get rid of Reflection? > Do we want to alias *all* Reflection methods in this way? definitely not, but: I can access all properties of an object without reflection e.g. with foreach. Why i need reflection (ability to examine at runtime!) to do same for constants (they will not change at runtime)? cryptocompress http://3v4l.org/94bru