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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Pierre Joye wrote:
> hi,
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I was in a van with my son-in-law yesterday and we got around to discussing
>> websites and the like. I run his sites, but HE uses Joomla, so although it's
>> PHP he has no interest in the language as such as long as Joomla works. So
>> this morning I though 'What ARE people using with PHP?" expecting to see a
>> large chunk of the 90 odd % of websites actually using PHP to be using
>> something to hide that, and got something of a surprise ...
>> http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/content_management/all
>> makes interesting reading, and so while I was anticipating that a large
>> chunk of users would be excluded from 'PHP' related questions, the reverse
>> seems to be the truth?
>
> We have discussed that hundred of times in the past. However let me
> try to compare with other mainstream products, in an understandable
> way:
>
> a company A delivers materials to a cell manufacturer  > The
> manufacturer sells ready to be used cells to end users. End users do
> not care if the cell use a chip from Company A or B as long as it
> works.
>
> the manufacturer reports needs&feedback to the company A, based on its
> customers feedback and needs
>
> PHP is the company A, Joomla/Wordpress&co are the cell manufacturers.

But the point is that apart perhaps for Wordpress, the 'cell manufacturers' are 
possibly only a very small percentage of the PHP user base? The piece of 
information we are missing is the split of users between 'cell manufacturer' 
type users and those that are using PHP direct? What part of the 68% of people 
'not using a cms system' are using some other 'cell manufacturer' and what part 
are just using PHP ... but even then, where a 'cell manufacturer' is no longer 
around, the end user needs help from PHP to port their website ... which is were 
a number of my own customers are trapped.

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Lester Caine - G8HFL
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