Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66266 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54400 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2013 09:56:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 09:56:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.170 mail-lb0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.170] ([209.85.217.170:59957] helo=mail-lb0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 66/80-49561-568DD215 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 04:56:54 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id ge1so354153lbb.1 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:56:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ggMsxBsAsou1B/F94io9wsuD+df2p525uNaMKn2f+Rw=; b=FrzhwJ4LjytmZU9CsK+hVJqQrELujjhTrBhnqp8hTRXf73fgek5FdEsP5cJCRCliRV QcxR34p0rdBBijuPc4KvnhIpXGrradUTFJrhx+f4af/t8qHN9BfKKPZG01ilfgy1mlZc SL/YGMkwpRKuQ7qo8TWa4Fcmcc7gDGMBNghYqBaDTZZooTBZP+jOOIImaX6I4wopEXz5 bC16iF1apA1xxxk7G4cZ0iLmMDpkqoX3vPNq6uR5lO4CwJhn46JiZila6Ehy+SC6I/aK XHU5D33P1eG/daxl+wEVzvM0NJL8/vyvtwmfu3y8BOz8+qLUiZ0JzFLnYHCGg/KP66bT MBnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.104.80 with SMTP id gc16mr1377938lab.49.1361959010854; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.38.199 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 01:56:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <512DC97F.9090901@lsces.co.uk> References: <512DC97F.9090901@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:56:50 +0100 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > I was in a van with my son-in-law yesterday and we got around to discussing > websites and the like. I run his sites, but HE uses Joomla, so although it's > PHP he has no interest in the language as such as long as Joomla works. So > this morning I though 'What ARE people using with PHP?" expecting to see a > large chunk of the 90 odd % of websites actually using PHP to be using > something to hide that, and got something of a surprise ... > http://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/content_management/all > makes interesting reading, and so while I was anticipating that a large > chunk of users would be excluded from 'PHP' related questions, the reverse > seems to be the truth? We have discussed that hundred of times in the past. However let me try to compare with other mainstream products, in an understandable way: a company A delivers materials to a cell manufacturer > The manufacturer sells ready to be used cells to end users. End users do not care if the cell use a chip from Company A or B as long as it works. the manufacturer reports needs&feedback to the company A, based on its customers feedback and needs PHP is the company A, Joomla/Wordpress&co are the cell manufacturers. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye