Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66192 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33090 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2013 14:45:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Feb 2013 14:45:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=florian@anderiasch.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=florian@anderiasch.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain anderiasch.de from 81.169.138.148 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: florian@anderiasch.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.138.148 ares.art-core.org Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [81.169.138.148] ([81.169.138.148:35614] helo=mail.anderiasch.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2D/D8-10787-1097B215 for ; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 09:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <512B7900.6090402@anderiasch.de> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 15:45:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116 Icedove/10.0.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: nilsandre@gmx.de CC: Nils Andre , internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC Autoboxing Draft From: florian@anderiasch.de (Florian Anderiasch) On 02/25/2013 02:43 PM, Nils Andre wrote: > strings. Not going too much into details here, many programmes always have > to look up the function definition because very similar functions have > their parameters in different orders or simply don't act in a predictive, > well-structured manner. This article is a good read to sum it up: Hi, "not going too much into details here" First, [lease do go into details, this is exactly what it is about. I can'tpeven begin to fathom what you think autoboxing has to do with variable order on string functions. Second, that article might be a lot of things, but "summary" is surely the worst way to describe it. "Semi-complete, semi-outdated rant covering every current and past flaw in PHP" might be a better one. And lastly, if you're suggesting a "startsWith" method on a proposed String Object, that still has nothing to do with an Autoboxing RFC - it's step 2 or 3 after the language would have Autoboxing. Greetings, Florian