Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66140 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90215 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 23:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 23:33:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 67.192.241.113 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.192.241.113 smtp113.dfw.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [67.192.241.113] ([67.192.241.113:56355] helo=smtp113.dfw.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/85-58335-6DEA6215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:33:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1481DD0408; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:33:38 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp11.relay.dfw1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id A9B5ED041A; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 18:33:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5126AED1.3010105@sugarcrm.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:33:37 -0800 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <678597E6-E3A8-42E0-8DFC-F8382C9DFB41@strojny.net> <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > F.e., how long have we been battled for annotations? With all > respects, it is about being blind and stubborn to say that PHP should > not have annotations. But due to some "I'm happy with what we have It is about being blind and stubborn to hold opinion different than yours. And *this* not an opinion but a fact. Got it. > This is not about borking the language with useless features. This is > not about being on the cutting edge. this is about catching up with > the competition. "Keeping up with the Joneses" is not a good idea in personal life, and is not a good idea in language design. Not everything Joneses have we should have, just because they do. You have to have better reasons. Sometimes there are better reasons, and we do borrow all the time. But doing that *just* because they have it makes little sense. *When* we decide that it makes sense for PHP, then we can look at how others do it and see if it translates. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227