Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66135 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74672 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 21:03:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 21:03:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.211.66 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.66 config.schlueters.de Received: from [217.114.211.66] ([217.114.211.66:57348] helo=config.schlueters.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3E/B2-58335-F9B86215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:03:28 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.20] (ppp-46-244-145-81.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.145.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by config.schlueters.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D829865642; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:03:23 +0100 (CET) To: Marco Pivetta Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Pierre Joye , Zeev Suraski , Lars Strojny , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <678597E6-E3A8-42E0-8DFC-F8382C9DFB41@strojny.net> <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> <51263D89.5040308@lerdorf.com> <1361462685.2355.132.camel@guybrush> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 22:04:14 +0100 Message-ID: <1361480654.2355.167.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 17:06 +0100, Marco Pivetta wrote: > On 21 February 2013 17:04, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > > > The quoted business decision was "We want something stable and fast", an > > emphasis of fixing bugs over adding new ones. This sounds sane to me. > Doesn't exclude new features then: so what is this all about? * We have limited development resources * Developers can either fix bugs and tune code or add features * All new features go through different rounds of fixing newly introduced bugs * All new features increase the amount of things to maintain long-term I'm not against new features, but sometimes I wonder about the focus. johannes