Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66133 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68181 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 19:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 19:51:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.186 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.186 c2beaomr08.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.186] ([213.123.26.186:14836] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C6/B1-58335-5AA76215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:51:02 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr08.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KSE64849; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:50:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <51267A9B.6030809@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:50:51 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <678597E6-E3A8-42E0-8DFC-F8382C9DFB41@strojny.net> <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> <7BAC7E3E-03A2-44BF-B960-C853FB976943@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.51267A9D.000E, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.2.21.192415:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_900_999, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr08.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020B.51267AA2.0027:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Arvids Godjuks wrote: > In principle, as a user-land developer, I agree with the motion. It's too > much fancy new shiny stuff lately and no actual improvement on the old > stuff that really needs fixing or updating/rewriting (PDO anyone? Years > behind every db driver extension there is in PHP, and as far as I'm > concerned - it should be dropped and concentrate on standardize the db > extension public API). A BIG +1 on that ... there are a number of better options which would actually be a step forward rather than dragging everything back to the past with PDO's limited API ! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk