Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66132 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65822 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 19:24:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 19:24:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com designates 141.146.126.69 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 141.146.126.69 aserp1040.oracle.com Received: from [141.146.126.69] ([141.146.126.69:48885] helo=aserp1040.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B1/41-58335-75476215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:24:08 -0500 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r1LJO3Ud020257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:24:04 GMT Received: from acsmt356.oracle.com (acsmt356.oracle.com [141.146.40.156]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1LJO2vI023471 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 19:24:03 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt356.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r1LJO2XC005142 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:24:02 -0600 Received: from [130.35.70.82] (/130.35.70.82) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:24:02 -0800 Message-ID: <51267451.3080407@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:24:01 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <5125339E.4050501@oracle.com> <5125FEB1.3010605@anderiasch.de> In-Reply-To: <5125FEB1.3010605@anderiasch.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) On 02/21/2013 03:02 AM, Florian Anderiasch wrote: > On 02/21/2013 08:14 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > >> I do not have a single doubt. Why? Surveys are one of many ways to get >> feedback. They have no contracting values but give us some numbers about >> one rfc or another. That may help us to focus on one feature instead of >> another if we see a large number of users looking forward to it. > > You'll never get perfect results, but I prefer results at all over none :) > > There have been a lot of those for other languages: > > - > http://cemerick.com/2012/08/06/results-of-the-2012-state-of-clojure-survey/ > - http://survey.perlfoundation.org/ > - http://survey.hamptoncatlin.com/ > For the mail archives, there are also these (more focused) reports: http://static.zend.com/topics/zend-developer-pulse-survey-report-Q2-2012-0612-EN.pdf http://downloads.zend.com/guides/whitepapers/State_of_PHP_in_the_Enterprise_061212.pdf Chris -- christopher.jones@oracle.com http://twitter.com/ghrd Newly updated, free PHP & Oracle book: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/php/underground-php-oracle-manual-098250.html