Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66114 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20419 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 14:17:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 14:17:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.219.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.45 mail-oa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.45] ([209.85.219.45:43899] helo=mail-oa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 50/B2-05272-69C26215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:17:59 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id o6so9350901oag.32 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:17:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-mailer :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=TFbY1fThphQcapw6z9bWjT+g79WG0KFnEDJCe3DUdxA=; b=FXYfS5EVbpNux3UYwTcuyoeX5twH6QWBSbKpLzHIWZXTliHrgDqHtxOjkgnoYXha60 zbv7LmSnnohUx9BxSycqYVlLIoU6mVUqeDZERGL9de+gtTxYuZDGbRWGz7UZJMdvkGOF Sy4x00OpXa3R1FQY8kIiCu12rFpzHZm063e+ZoZscJOICoJIODnbLVuJlt+AafgKWZk/ UOctvs9L55QjDaWO7L7areV7QrJTo4LmDBz2Uq5sgXFCKHkNYkTlJggRbgwGOKHMs1n9 GEUxIOv4ekXxZqGLjdS+5O5gMG1YPc08UdYoVkRckmfJFO/wiE6lTKEdoKSZouo8YXxp AbLQ== X-Received: by 10.182.154.103 with SMTP id vn7mr10778179obb.60.1361456275920; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 06:17:55 -0800 (PST) References: <678597E6-E3A8-42E0-8DFC-F8382C9DFB41@strojny.net> <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKUtCADwWZJQw53BQRQK5z5+Zyt1AI9ey+DAuX/OEUCOXO+gALkDtCnA2edcYuWic8YsA== Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 16:17:55 +0200 Message-ID: <3d75092d29e3ab927b98a0fac924a76a@mail.gmail.com> To: Pierre Joye Cc: Florin Razvan Patan , Lars Strojny , Derick Rethans , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlrBeHy4enBtzXbWA4s3qZNymJeevgRgY5X6HVD9NzEVbAHuxoSbe2gS6z+ZjOg6PUtYcJYv+bkVCnmJw4F8mNXtJSWat8C3ajknU4GAWqw/tBVIdLjiKOP/5ZfFgEiNje3loNy Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:08 PM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: Florin Razvan Patan; Lars Strojny; Derick Rethans; PHP Developers Mailing > List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) > > hi, > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > That's not adaptation in my book. That's addition. It's not the > > technology landscape that changed that now you need annotations; It's > > that some people consider this feature cool and useful, and want to > > import it into PHP although it does not in fact enable you to do > > anything you can't do today, while it does add a lot of complexity to the > language. > > I can do everything PHP does in assembler, but I do not implement web apps in > assembler. Actually no, you can't. You won't live long enough to write a meaningful web app in asm, even if you live to be exceptionally old, and I certainly wish you well. Zeev