Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66105 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 972 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 12:20:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 12:20:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.43 mail-oa0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.43] ([209.85.219.43:41235] helo=mail-oa0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/AF-03224-72116215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 07:20:56 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so9150566oag.30 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:20:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=63PMVa2urkv9+k8o84T4sLtfeKxTCEc0gj3O+plQgfU=; b=PHFqP51H9dVSGwJRhsAVCA/JocJQ8ZHnRzeW0MIu2gDfSr+hi4tW2EIIuxojqARsWK IQuVzKF+OsCoIR4viyqRIidc/8os2AWe6QJMTHqc+d00eHgGsrEs9TjH2KoGRRtPgfqR 3qQ+iQMabtfKObyfuGpNOPyQb+FqHlmq5vrq09SExJ6p0RaiLu4Kg1gB7yyAzLxOtw3T KEv7dpUN5Kiv/iCNY5/myXp5hFUIP/oRYBpjz3ZT3H9yn/Nj6ndExLtIRqI1ePtmQk4h A3f9nMNr2nKQ6jgewIXJz58uHCIhEkaanb7tA80g50APiv23DN2HRfEX0B3h1zV3VDM7 jV2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.7.3 with SMTP id f3mr1676984oea.64.1361449252725; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.49.136 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 04:20:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:20:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb2016416f70504d63b1ba4 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --e89a8fb2016416f70504d63b1ba4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > Once you're done thinking, decide for yourself. Does it make sense to be > discussing new language level features every other week? Or should we, > perhaps, > invest more in other fronts, which would be beneficial for a far bigger > audience. The levels above - extensions to keep with the latest > technologies, > foundation classes, etc. Pretty much, the same direction other mature > languages > went to. > Won't comment one the rest of this (to avoid more flame), but wanted to say something about this: If you want more foundation classes / libraries, then what PHP has to do is move more of it's standard library to PHP. C has a large implementational overhead and an even larger entry barrier. To make major advances on the library front, it needs to move to PHP. There are some tough problems associated with this, but I think they can be solved and PHP would benefit a lot from this. Nikita --e89a8fb2016416f70504d63b1ba4--