Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66100 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87351 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2013 10:32:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Feb 2013 10:32:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.20.127 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.20.127 c2bthomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.20.127] ([213.123.20.127:2452] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D1/8D-03224-EC7F5215 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:32:47 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KYK23079; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:32:43 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5125F7C7.6020300@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:32:39 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <678597E6-E3A8-42E0-8DFC-F8382C9DFB41@strojny.net> <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8d4e991084a1313844910ec0168eacdf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.5125F7C8.0051, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.2.21.93616:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1000_1099, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2bthomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0205.5125F7CB.0110:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Give the Language a Rest motion (fwd) From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Zeev Suraski wrote: > There used to be a language that was the Queen of the Web. It was full of > clever syntax. It prided itself on having a variety of expressive ways of > doing the same thing. You're on the mailing list of the language that > dethroned it. And the majority of END USERS are more than happy with the websites it is serving up today! If you want to evolve the language then much more effort should be put into providing tools that update the current user base rather than simply throwing in switches which hide all the problems :( Having to manually update sites on a case by case basis is what is currently holding things back - and stopping ISP's switching to the 'latest and greatest'! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk