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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:09:46 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Paul Reinheimer <preinheimer@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> My apologies for the intrusion, I'll keep this brief.
>
> In many discussions over the past few months there has been talk about what
> the community at large needs. Pierre said just earlier today:
>
> "I would also say it us time for us to get back in sync with the
> communities needs. I am not talking about the last days RFCs but in
> general."
>
> The other point that comes up is the difficulty in reaching a large portion
> of the community. They don't come to conferences, they don't sit on this
> list, they don't go to user groups. They work with PHP for months or years,
> but the rest of the "community" doesn't even know who they are. I believe
> Rasmus has mentioned this on a few occasions.
>
> So my suggestion is simple, let's ask them: What they want, What they need,
> how they installed PHP (source, rpm, deb, provided by hosting provider,
> Zend Server), etc. Let's create a survey, and link to it prominently on
> php.net. I considered just writing a survey myself, but even if everyone I
> knew tweeted it I'd still lack the reach to hit those outside the
> traditional community.
>
>
> While this is clearly not a suggestion to change PHP, i'll write this up in
> RFC format if there's interest. Should give people an opportunity to
> discuss questions and such.
>
>
> thanks for your time
> paul
>
>
> --
> Paul Reinheimer
>

I like the idea, though I would be extremely concerned about making this
survey as scientific as possible so that we don't wind up with biased or
inaccurate results.  Common examples would be duplicate voting, leading or
subjective questions, and limited sampling.  If those hurdles could be
overcome, I'm all for it.  I'd be happy to assist with the RFC and the
voting app/questions if there's sufficient interest here.

--Kris

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