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Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 12:51:38 +0200
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To: Levi Morrison <morrison.levi@gmail.com>
Cc: Nikita Nefedov <inefedor@gmail.com>, internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Dropping requirement for `function` keyword for methods
 in classes/interfaces/etc
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> The key question for me is: does removing it hurt PHP in any way? And
for me,
> the answer is a clear and resounding no.

This is completely the wrong question to ask (IMHO).  I think the answer
is wrong too, but that's a different story.

The correct question is:
"Does it bring substantial value to be considered for inclusion in one of
the world's most popular programming languages?"  For me, the answer is a
clear and resounding no.
From my POV that's where the story ends.  The whole discussion about greps
and IDEs misses the point - we shouldn't even be discussing a 'feature'
that brings no value to the table.

The only reason I wrote my reply is that we seem to be having an influx of
those RFCs that fail this very basic requirement.

Zeev