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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dropping requirement for `function` keyword for methods
 in classes/interfaces/etc
From: morrison.levi@gmail.com (Levi Morrison)

>> The key question for me is: does removing it hurt PHP in any way? And
>> for me, the answer is a clear and resounding no. I do not grep code
>> for method definitions: I know exactly where they are and so will my
>> IDE if I happen to not be using vim. And for those who like to grep
>> for method definitions they can keep the keyword present.
>
> Except when I come along and try to grok your code. I rarely search my
> own code.

Protip: use an IDE.

No, I'm serious. I work from the command-line a lot. I grep, awk and
sed a lot of things on a weekly (sometimes daily) basis.  However, it
does not replace a good IDE.  Ever done a replace from the command
line only to find out you messed up some binary files and/or git/svn
information? Happens all the time when I don't use an IDE; good IDE's
don't make that mistake.

Let's stop pretending that the vast majority of PHP users actually
grep source code looking for `function foo`.  They don't. *They don't
even know how to use grep.* However, every PHP developer has to write
`function` and more importantly they have to read `function` over and
over again.

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Does that mean that I think `function` ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE made
optional? No. I don't.

Am I tired of everyone complaining about this particular issue and
pointing to the fact that some external tool won't work if you remove
the otherwise unnecessary keyword? Yes, I am. Take a step back and
look at your argument guys: you may have strong personal feelings
about it, but it's a pretty thin argument.