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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dropping requirement for `function` keyword for methods
 in classes/interfaces/etc
From: inefedor@gmail.com ("Nikita Nefedov")

On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:53:40 -0000, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter  =

<johannes@schlueters.de> wrote:

> I agreed to the conclusion that the "function" keyword provided a nice=

> way to grep for functions when handling foreign code and leaving it ou=
t
> only provides little improvement in less typing.
>
> Please provide new arguments for a new discussion. (That thread was
> rather long)
>
> And as a general note I'd like to remind you all about Rasmus' recent
> mail: http://news.php.net/php.internals/65894 - In my words: Why not f=
ix
> bugs instead of creating new ones?
>
> johannes
>
>

Hmm, I agree about grepping, but how often do you do it? Actually, last =
 =

time I grepped php files was half a year ago I think, when I had just ss=
h  =

connection and didn't want to mount sshfs. But usually there's IDEs that=
  =

can statically analyze your code and let you search against huge codebas=
es  =

in seconds, I don't want to sound mean, but hey, does anybody greps php =
 =

code?

What about reasoning - of course there's no reasons besides less typing.=
  =

At the moment, usually when I want to define method, I usually already  =

know will be in its body so I'm trying to type as fast as I can, and I  =

often make some mistake in `public` keyword or `function`, actually it  =

happens all the time :) So for me it would be pretty good feature if I  =

could write one less word.

I agree with Sara about requirement for explicit declaration of visibili=
ty  =

attr.