Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65877 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42876 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2013 18:09:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Feb 2013 18:09:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lars@strojny.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lars@strojny.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain strojny.net from 46.4.40.248 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lars@strojny.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 46.4.40.248 milch.schokokeks.org Received: from [46.4.40.248] ([46.4.40.248:37161] helo=milch.schokokeks.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B8/F4-06160-AB97E115 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 13:08:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.85] (p5099f5c8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [::ffff:80.153.245.200]) (AUTH: PLAIN lars@schokokeks.org, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by milch.schokokeks.org with ESMTPSA; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:08:54 +0100 id 0000000000000026.00000000511E79B6.00004E2D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.2 \(1499\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:08:53 +0100 Cc: PHP Internals , David Soria Parra Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: To: Julien Pauli X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.5 upcoming roadmap From: lars@strojny.net (Lars Strojny) Hi Julien, Am 15.02.2013 um 13:05 schrieb Julien Pauli : > Hello everyone, >=20 > As you may know, Zend recently open sourced ZendOptimizer+ with a PHP > Licence. > We are planning to merge it to PHP5.5 Core (discussions on Mailing = lists > and IRC) and have it bundled with PHP5.5 final release stable. I'm sorry, but you must be kidding doing such a change and skipping the = RFC process altogether. This will seriously hurt the acceptance of the = whole RFC process and there won=92t be a good argument against people = just committing random changes without an RFC. How should I convince = somebody with a working pull request to go ahead and deal with an RFC = when we introduce changes like that "just like that". Can we please stop the process insanity and stick to our own rules (or = change them in a transparent way). Thanks, Lars=