Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65678 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65697 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2013 18:18:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 2013 18:18:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.47 mail-vb0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.47] ([209.85.212.47:42902] helo=mail-vb0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 12/4D-28596-4FC41115 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 13:18:29 -0500 Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e21so259462vbm.34 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:18:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tQLqwayTa0Qv7nbZK8B2a0dozYEpJZ3wTpd4Dqi1Fw0=; b=0PUbXlybIUiz+G8Cg/X+AUadMblMuPCMJTE0kLjiwWExeC96Jkb//LewD4BMyW2gaB WYVn49LVTjml9uYFS80VS1TlSbSD5P3joPD5Anfk4E9QdzN8YemBtAXLNsQ8pMhHk726 vOqHy0zLvcvEnJvORQzubZLXfBf7iwh6LTHZtgOUw709nyifI/NLGs0505nEMDoZaRLX bQjyv2TafYv9d3b3vd8UbePSMMtAbwyQ3Z1/KkmLDugsyvh1AAPPD0nHxnbWzrCN+KNJ h77aqaRpgMwZeJX2GFhGX/B1PL5lM/xU+gupXzU/yKquQG01pFYk5cui3aIECznrg1Sf sa8Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.115.133 with SMTP id i5mr28459244vcq.42.1360088306231; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 10:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.41.195 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 10:18:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51113192.2030404@lsces.co.uk> References: <510EBF98.4060900@lerdorf.com> <5110AFFB.8040303@lerdorf.com> <5110BF7F.90508@lsces.co.uk> <1360065708.95691.YahooMailNeo@web133004.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <5110FE4B.8020406@lsces.co.uk> <51113192.2030404@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 19:18:26 +0100 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for serious BC compatibility aka language versioning From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > It is totally on topic! no, really not. > :( THEY are not programmers ... But you are. Evolution of the platform as a whole is part of the support, if desired and necessary. > My current roadmap is based on PHP5.4 servers with nothing hidden and > eventually all of the code will be moved forward to that base, but I simply > can't justify charging some customers for all the time this takes because > they HAVE working sites currently and this is not giving them any return. And the working sites will still work later as well if they don't change the platform. However porting applications to supported platforms is part of a support contract, and costs should or can be described. It is even easier now that we have a fixed life cycle (three years). But again, how one should do support or define the needs of his customers so they won't be in trouble (and himself neither) is not a topic for this list. cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye