Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65667 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29083 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2013 12:59:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 2013 12:59:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.180 mail-wi0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.180] ([209.85.212.180:44419] helo=mail-wi0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/F5-28596-34201115 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 07:59:48 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi8so142908wib.7 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:59:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2QaJ2/xVo690Y3Mbne2ndDHfoWyw6uwpjunIi5tVLy8=; b=b+esSC0phe+IKST23K/O20/iJGJXsVnoOpjVSM3YUlBggHtxk6XyJN5CggjR4TqVjr OFCkgVZIlJaAXJ8ZXUIJHNCOgQ1iNZ9tT79m468a26q1EnD+URe7ED13g912hhsJWadD IfVaJRdiSc+N3az1D+c3O0PeFQBsC8llMLeyo+D+8p/UJru0gjMCf02lKlS1vs5Nb7eM rymh3IRjERDUDORjqnpCJMnsv4Y8+D9fYsKqAP6K8Wi7+akq4l2CEesL/NueDlDwGsJ0 r8bkL9H+n+y4FWmXc7ZKHblH+8o44Rwd3BCymkX0oHwigVWRC761YsInb3cppZPqSmp4 lTNg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.88.202 with SMTP id bi10mr42204326wjb.5.1360069184711; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 04:59:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.177.138 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:59:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <510EBF98.4060900@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 04:59:44 -0800 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Karoly Negyesi , Rasmus Lerdorf , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0102ee229fec5204d4f9c804 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for serious BC compatibility aka language versioning From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --089e0102ee229fec5204d4f9c804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > This is a circular discussion and I don't see how it could end. > I do. Let's put up an RFC for it. That is one of the reasons we established that process, isn't it? So that ideas like this don't just end up in infinite discussions that go nowhere? Karoly, are you familiar with our RFC process? If not, take a look at http://wiki.php.net/rfc. You've clearly invested a lot of thought into this, so let's go ahead and put that into an actual proposal. I'll be glad to help, including posting it to the wiki if you don't have an account. I'll be honest: I don't think it'll pass. I'd be voting no on it if that vote were held right now. But at least you'll have an actual proposal on record and you'll have at least a week (or is it two?) to try to change people's minds before it goes to a vote. I think that would be the best way to close the lid on this. If somebody brings it up again in the near future, we can simply point them to the RFC to demonstrate that the issue has already been raised and decided. Problem solved. If anybody has a better idea on how to put this discussion to rest, I'm all ears. =) --Kris --089e0102ee229fec5204d4f9c804--