Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65662 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5361 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2013 08:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 2013 08:15:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.185 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.185 c2beaomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.185] ([213.123.26.185:17985] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 53/02-28596-38FB0115 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 03:15:00 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KOT83796; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:14:56 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5110BF7F.90508@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 08:14:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <510EBF98.4060900@lerdorf.com> <5110AFFB.8040303@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <5110AFFB.8040303@lerdorf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0302.5110BF7F.0043, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.2.5.74517:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1200_1299, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0206.5110BF80.0020:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for serious BC compatibility aka language versioning From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> It would make everyone's life so much easier if all the Drupal 8 code >> >that is being written and tested with 5.4 would just work 5.5 without >> >*any* problem. > Yup, so please test it against 5.5 now. Have you done so? It is rather > trivial to do. Grab it from git or there is a tarball athttp://qa.php.net Perhaps when I've finished the time machine ... In reality we have to make choices where we DO spend time. There is still a mile of code out there being used live which is running perfectly on the PHP5.2 infrastructure. That needs testing and reworking on PHP5.3 and then PHP5.4 before we get around to 5.5. This is perhaps the main problem with accelerating the release timetable in that there simply is not enough time to bring everybody along? So something has to give and at the moment for me it's going to have to be 5.5 ... but by the time all the legacy stuff is up to 5.4 you will be way off in the distance :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk