Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65587 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15350 invoked from network); 3 Feb 2013 22:06:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Feb 2013 22:06:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.51 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.51 mail-pa0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.51] ([209.85.220.51:37417] helo=mail-pa0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/83-22879-B7FDE015 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 17:06:52 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hz1so2040334pad.38 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:06:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=uZY+RNqfRp64FZ0JasXPoAjELhhnt82o/t9UhpYAjw8=; b=po/WA6xj2dm2Tgj8IWBboSHetxdINRBt1/oAn8Z+I9AgUXh3DKcClqJOa+9pP5Q+wO UoDWNcHvZNIMOVTk/d5tmtKtlGHmUwVOpDQJEFaybZKrq1MnCQj73ue/PMGeGdRnVXk5 xMFmus+Ag7BC1T7IdcHT4JjEY7zkpaXmAS2DGjm8qHYVvAu6ZIWfPEPjmpdQvr653ZP2 jEhHPyVzc24H+I9MOTwpJFx2wIGzjyFUlUVjoDJ9iymJ8BCviaWDj2RPGLdgXVVu+2f6 jMWfTazaU8uJUGKXMALh9xJXpbeDHq2/23iWMfthuiSnwGtwZ13yShnj2+jnwInVI24t v+JQ== X-Received: by 10.68.234.105 with SMTP id ud9mr49142585pbc.107.1359929209344; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.200.148] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t7sm13174876pax.17.2013.02.03.14.06.48 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:06:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <510EDF77.6050208@lerdorf.com> Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2013 14:06:47 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Karoly Negyesi CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <510EBF98.4060900@lerdorf.com> <510EDCDD.3060508@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlsrlthMyUvIONSZGaUI76hhnWhuoC2xGtH72NTQl2oB8ND/DFc8yyb1xsNtaYA0ofSDe2o Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for serious BC compatibility aka language versioning From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 02/03/2013 02:03 PM, Karoly Negyesi wrote: > Well, fixing a segfault, adding a new function or method as it oft > happened in PHP 5.3 is only breaking forwards compatibility not > backwards -- if you have code that ran on PHP 5.3.4 it'll run on > 5.3.5. The reverse is not true which causes some headaches to Drupal > developers but it's not relevant to this discussion. > > So, what about adding a version string to the opening that you can fix bugs while not breaking BC :P ? We had that in the past and it was a mess. We are not going to make that mistake again. -Rasmus