Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65510 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13663 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 16:10:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 16:10:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hanskrentel@yahoo.de; sender-id=unknown; domainkeys=good Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hanskrentel@yahoo.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain yahoo.de from 77.238.189.90 cause and error) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hanskrentel@yahoo.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 77.238.189.90 nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: from [77.238.189.90] ([77.238.189.90:32920] helo=nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/C3-09318-10649015 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:10:42 -0500 Received: from [77.238.189.51] by nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 16:10:39 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.114] by tm4.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 16:10:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Jan 2013 16:10:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 268581.49839.bm@omp1023.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41904 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Jan 2013 16:10:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1359562238; bh=Kb4Px7r1V8+6AkskFTfXCuGWLkrTK6UjFOCBX7DrywA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=boyaPjWg5xaDrkxj3hdB8XLldY1hAuC/FotdQqOLV98Yiw9MHHyPJKspWTF4Zl0mC7Vj8Ea7Dp0cBrufjPTTYrEXnya8jaS0cLm4ZSU9B3ty1vmMAQEdjr/QSvfntlNMIDBNgRtxw+8X5Y8g/5WMx6Vv4ovW2G9xl14QD7eYDCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.de; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Hn1lfonJsjDHOdZLGqG+IxfeJvAgg47XdPIWUBtN8Yu97QYdofAL4oN0fxH08BBiLDdICS9nVOYLIIQazxQK9ByqpSXHJDWo8bIYv/4fiFrNEOT5h7EWeTRlUY053QucVueCDklj/Cq8AX9Ryl2EumD4gGJlIZJ2TLI5dahecjo= ; X-YMail-OSG: ZZxV5uQVM1mE6zSAZLrYtPuCCjEWXPKJeINef.JVc1bKCjJ Qv9xNtTmsu8gcFCVgSy03k9pqMj4HbCQG87VKPf_RhAv0UAZ88LA_fe1b7xb zk.GbdCJomtmNmLpMWIHI_eiC6GQcKIT5JovJPZaJ5HxTHda0m0yVyi_GOyo DW.65ueAA3w2WcSTnkzwvmkbqM_UfsqD4G70JMNUGA3EPwC5tvMOmHjAf16J 0VGNMaojcNm3EumvRV3TGGnHQP1sEPWkoHblm1JAqs.4xmdUYUt6qDwiwni3 FkK88KOMQHHXyYkhLagowyksFbsvzRf9mQf4QCu7vGWrdTcpLtZf71jgdw9c kuzrz8Vghg5vngquuMmGyKLWdKhkjQ9SImG2uOJyu7mCfQErNDSFnDKfQIZv yzPw9mczSsp00LPc6N71_5ksUEhWJIaz1opP6JiP27EHXSpY3vV7H_cX1NoS .p9WYjz_tKyUiYpysfaKwzrwkGSE5QIqOJYZeHONp3a_HThmQebT5 Received: from [79.225.28.46] by web133001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:10:37 GMT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,CgoKCi0tLS0tIFdlaXRlcmdlbGVpdGV0ZSBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tCj4gVm9uOiBoYWtyZSA8aGFuc2tyZW50ZWxAeWFob28uZGU.Cj4gQW46IFplZXYgU3VyYXNraSA8emVldkB6ZW5kLmNvbT4KPiBDQzogCj4gR2VzZW5kZXQ6IDE3OjA5IE1pdHR3b2NoLCAzMC5KYW51YXIgMjAxMwo.IEJldHJlZmY6IFJlOiBbUEhQLURFVl0gW1JGQ10gSW50ZWdyYXRpbmcgWmVuZCBPcHRpbWl6ZXIrIGludG8gdGhlIFBIUCBkaXN0cmlidXRpb24KPiAKPiDCoC0tLS0tIFVyc3Byw7xuZ2xpY2hlIE1lc3NhZ2UgLS0tLS0KPiABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.131.499 References: <5d21b42656d49b4a71d9f808541bd745@mail.gmail.com> <1359562177.37091.YahooMailNeo@web133001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1359562237.22084.YahooMailNeo@web133001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:10:37 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: hakre To: "internals@lists.php.net" In-Reply-To: <1359562177.37091.YahooMailNeo@web133001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: WG: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: hanskrentel@yahoo.de (hakre) =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Weitergeleitete Message -----=0A> Von: hakre =0A> An: Zeev Suraski =0A> CC: =0A> Gesendet: 17:0= 9 Mittwoch, 30.Januar 2013=0A> Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zen= d Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution=0A> =0A> =C2=A0----- Urspr=C3=BCngli= che Message -----=0A> =0A>> Von: Zeev Suraski =0A>> An: in= ternals@lists.php.net=0A>> CC: =0A>> Gesendet: 9:03 Dienstag, 29.Januar 2= 013=0A>> Betreff: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP= =0A> distribution=0A>> =0A>> All,=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Following the d= iscussion at the end of last week, I prepared a draft RFC=0A>> for the inc= lusion of Optimizer+ in PHP.=0A> =0A> I have some questions:=0A> =0A> * In = that RFC you write:=0A> =0A> "the integration won=E2=80=99t happen before l= ate 2014." [if it's not =0A> bundled with PHP 5.5]=0A> =0A> Can you please = outline why? Especially does it mean you stop contributing to the =0A> PECL= development if you don't get this bundled with PHP 5.5?=0A> =0A> Also can = you please outline why you put obviously so much focus in bundling this =0A= > to PHP 5.5? Or is my impression wrong?=0A> =0A> * With full respect and t= he best intentions: Are you able and if yes, can you =0A> share about the m= otivation why you decided (quite surprisingly) to contribute at =0A> this p= lace in time? As you wrote in the past many PHP core contributors also =0A>= worked on that component while it's well known that PHP is not really =0A>= useable as platform without an opcode cache in an attractive field. You al= so =0A> wrote in an earlier email that you got out of sync with your userba= se. Under =0A> these circumstances, the impression could be that it took a = little bit too long =0A> until this decision was done and I would like to s= ee this impression clarified =0A> because there are many loose ends.=0A> = =0A> * Is this surprising and welcomed release related in any way to the Op= enstack =0A> Initiative?=0A> =0A> * Which benefits does Zend Inc. see in co= ntributing the Opcode cache?=0A> =0A> * Last but not least, not related to = the opcode cache alone, but related because =0A> you want to bundle it with= core: If some day the PHP group decides to choose a =0A> similar software = license, but different in the sense that it is more compatible =0A> with ex= isting FLOSS licensing, would you have a problem to re-license as well, =0A= > e.g. under MIT or Apache 2.0 for that part?=0A> =0A> Thank you for taking= your time, I know I ask about a lot, but it would be great =0A> if you giv= e some insights that are not covered by the RFC but could play a role =0A> = to make up ones mind about this contribution. Thank you.=0A> =0A> -- hakre= =0A>