Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65502 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89299 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 13:36:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 13:36:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kalle.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kalle.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.49 mail-vb0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.49] ([209.85.212.49:41804] helo=mail-vb0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6F/1F-09318-5C129015 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:36:06 -0500 Received: by mail-vb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id s24so987426vbi.22 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:36:03 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6GkNZDOCmhZQrxf//jhF+mPePLmSLJ6tfCQYUQNyg6Y=; b=nYBz2sgHoSTINEawbHzMfx5WRmDkbbCZhyC7uJzRhBkbRTex6YhJjVvC/GA7vvLzqQ RfiyzsslOb/o5D/qOwgO+aL4xwGlDV9j2ql5FiHCawoZkI28QS71tGbtIJesD/wmL7Yg eyxTIH54LFmZtDBtvV98OGLl+KOnPREUrTu/4Lf56hoR18/eOIWAu5bkcFIVrgS2gOaj vhkFKhfjs6OMMcgMRshS283Jqt+cgDtk6Re0CZ9OOL1i/xzJbMV0/E04W1vEFw2I03m8 kEydt92MyVB8OlV53rKVi03NvpZjP530F/Izxmi2c6RYU2ZlaQNqgDEVayvpTvuBt4ff Esug== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.240.228 with SMTP id wd4mr4197431vdc.102.1359552963596; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:36:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: kalle.php@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.180.10 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:36:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51086B10.1000404@sugarcrm.com> References: <5d21b42656d49b4a71d9f808541bd745@mail.gmail.com> <2867ee446726884cd1ac3c2d185499b4@mail.gmail.com> <51086B10.1000404@sugarcrm.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:36:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: uzJz-RMO46HZDkpV4_woTP_1Kmk Message-ID: To: Stas Malyshev Cc: Zeev Suraski , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: kalle@php.net (Kalle Sommer Nielsen) Hi 2013/1/30 Stas Malyshev : > How it's more "outside product" than any of the other extensions we > brought to the core? Because it was not developed at php.net for example? How many extensions thats in the core today was not developed somewhere at php.net, or was either in PECL first? What I'm saying is that I think it should go to PECL first before getting adapted into the core, no matter who or where it was developed from if it was not developed here, yes I realize I make it sound like an alien artifact as Zeev said. What if the guys at XCache asked for it to be added to the main distribution, I'm pretty sure that most would say let it to go PECL or compare it with APC and have a race there, but the fact that it is (with all respect) guys who worked heavily on the Engine seems to blind some people, which is what I'm against. -- regards, Kalle Sommer Nielsen kalle@php.net