Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65495 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76323 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 12:19:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 12:19:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=streaky@mybrokenlogic.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=streaky@mybrokenlogic.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain mybrokenlogic.com designates 216.86.156.70 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: streaky@mybrokenlogic.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 216.86.156.70 server5.fusednetwork.com Windows 98 (1) Received: from [216.86.156.70] ([216.86.156.70:39606] helo=s5.fused.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3A/BC-09318-8CF09015 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:19:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mybrokenlogic.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=BVNicv2q/NoYCxGpBDEPCmyQDnYXf70O2Gm/A5p4DRo=; b=EdY17mEYs2o+Moj6rLHH/wE/FJNUHq3Eio3Kj4MwqTjwR8Q/MaemsSplZchL1B/rxAMGe+bWtUQ4GHUiUWfhH/953xJ65U3G/BDYZFaWhtcJuELa5g/PRW4BkciQlWQP; Received: from apt.345live.com ([46.33.129.233]:50880 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by s5.fused.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U0WdI-0007mQ-2j; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:19:17 -0600 Message-ID: <51090FBF.9010809@mybrokenlogic.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:19:11 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zeev Suraski CC: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s5.fused.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mybrokenlogic.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: s5.fused.com: authenticated_id: streaky@mybrokenlogic.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] ZTS - why are you using it? From: streaky@mybrokenlogic.com (Martin Nicholls) On 29/01/2013 09:03, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I’m creating a new one, > based on the apparent level of interest in ZTS. This isn’t an RFC to > remove ZTS by any stretch, but I **am** a bit confused about why people are > still using ZTS. Personally because runkit sandbox requires it, amongst other extensions. Haven't had a chance to play with it yet but the new pthreads extension requires it which I'm probably going to be using extensively in future too. Why does it need to be enabled for most people? It probably doesn't, but there are many third part extensions that can't function without it with no obvious workarounds that would cease to exist if it hypothetically disappeared. This for me, and I suppose many others would be a fairly major problem.