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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:47:56 +0000
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods
From: dan@dancryer.com (Dan Cryer)

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> That's what Ralf and I suggested all along. By the way, the problem is
> that most of the web developers don't know anything about IT. I guess
> most of them use Windows (and you can't expect a Windows user to
> compile stuff), and the majority of the other half uses Ubuntu and
> never even saw the shell, they're using Ubuntu Software Centre. I'm not
> talking about those who go to conferences, but the vast majority of PHP
> coders who never wrote a single bit of native code and never had to
> compile anything.
>

Not meaning to sound obnoxious, but are those kind of developers really
likely to be able to give useful enough feedback that their testing nightly
builds would be valuable? Surely a developer who doesn't know how to use
the shell is going to be limited in what level of detail they can provide,
potentially making the bug fixing process significantly more difficult.

I'm no C developer, most of my work is in PHP - but I've never found it a
struggle to compile PHP, MySQL or any of their associated libraries.

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