Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65478 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39744 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2013 08:09:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Jan 2013 08:09:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=attila.bukor@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=attila.bukor@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: attila.bukor@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.176 mail-ie0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.176] ([209.85.223.176:42142] helo=mail-ie0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/A5-09318-255D8015 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:09:54 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id 13so1049467iea.7 for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:09:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=jiTrh0O2fXWK4GPKpUPdQaA8HqPQD6nGqQab81odnjY=; b=gDaE2J/1cHJX9xbVw31cHsCNoGai4YHwbrjLvlLNQSv0w+EWpgRQG9rpm160vbewHI l57dP55nZuxkQr1CcWh7FHKNhikCBI9zXRRwoBScgV0oBU1Hjcx2FkVcRMeZddBkB7sB LQbyqC4UDTJbZdcZIh+/VeFuBfrz4fUG9rLS7j0jTgbJiwcYdTcnIDgXHXhWiwNhui1x EeeIQ5Tjjdcy6dl87Zg1qy3A1dBEof8EdREnCSpx8j0BCBJMsqV9Jjxr2gJ5cSbC6l6S ATErK1QWVZZO5MCNmMhAKPW9gQnhe8z6ISsXdjJWa6d/+P4u1Ox7xZ9HvEGdSuUR6Igd rD/g== X-Received: by 10.50.236.41 with SMTP id ur9mr2906294igc.7.1359533392115; Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:09:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 00:09:51 -0800 Message-ID: <-449608301553747468@unknownmsgid> To: Stas Malyshev , Larry Garfield Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods From: attila.bukor@gmail.com (Attila Bukor) That's what Ralf and I suggested all along. By the way, the problem is that most of the web developers don't know anything about IT. I guess most of them use Windows (and you can't expect a Windows user to compile stuff), and the majority of the other half uses Ubuntu and never even saw the shell, they're using Ubuntu Software Centre. I'm not talking about those who go to conferences, but the vast majority of PHP coders who never wrote a single bit of native code and never had to compile anything. r1pp3rj4ck From: Stas Malyshev Sent: 30/01/2013 07:04 To: Larry Garfield Cc: internals@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods Hi! > down. Right or wrong, good or bad, the gulf between PHP developer and C > developer is *huge*, and doing anything at all with the PHP engine, We're not talking here writing code in C. We're talking here typing "configure" in shell, hitting enter, then typing "make" in shell, then hitting enter. It's not really *that* hard. OK, there are all kinds of envt problems and so on that could happen, but on standard Linux with standard libs that's pretty much it. But if even that is too hard, how about making something like spec file for RPM and a script that d/ls a snapshot and then builds a RPM from it? Installing RPM shouldn't be too hard? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php