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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] ZTS - why are you using it?
From: florian@anderiasch.de (Florian Anderiasch)

On 01/30/2013 07:09 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Stas Malyshev
<smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> Python, for example, is thread safe by default. Extensions developers
>>
>> Doesn't Python have global engine lock?
>
> Right, but they do not give up thread safety. See "Thread State and
> the Global Interpreter Lock" in:
>
> http://docs.python.org/2/c-api/init.html
>
> The TS model in php should be redesigned in the next major version,
> instead of simply giving it up.

You make it sound as if the GIL was a good thing...

And yes, it might have been introduced for that exact reason, but I
haven't read anything pro-GIL in the last few years, according to most
Python developers (mostly those who want to scale) it's basically their
number one pain point.

Doesn't sound like a fair deal at all. Plus, mod_python is dead,
everyone's using FastCGI/UWSGI anyway, so I'm not sure what you're
hinting at... (Or am I missing something?)

NB: Deliberately staying away from any pro/contra PHP-ZTS arguments,
this was just a quick blurb about Python.

Greetings,
Florian