Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65407 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95605 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 15:16:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 15:16:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.185 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.185 c2beaomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.185] ([213.123.26.185:42944] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7D/32-10721-2B7E7015 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:16:02 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KNC70499; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:15:58 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5107E7AD.5020705@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:15:57 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <5d21b42656d49b4a71d9f808541bd745@mail.gmail.com> <2867ee446726884cd1ac3c2d185499b4@mail.gmail.com> <5107E02D.6050204@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0303.5107E7AD.0059, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.1.29.144224:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020A.5107E7AF.0077:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2013/1/29 Lester Caine : >> I'll get my head chewed off again, but can we no consider doing that as PHP6 >> given that 6.0.x could be a development stage. I would perhaps then strongly >> lobby for 'only' having E_STRICT mode so things like 'static $this' go by >> the by anyway? This would not rule out a 5.5 with just the current suit of >> extras although personally I'd prefer a longer maintained 5.4 with just the >> extras that dovetail well included. > > What is 'static $this', and how does E_STRICT belong to this whole discussion? [VOTE] Deprecate and remove calls from incompatible context This is another area where a major overhaul needs a major version number shift. Just looking at this as an overview of where we ideally want to be quicker than going through 5.5/5.6 releases would allow. Alright the optimizer could simply remain an extra that anybody can use now, but planning a streamlined PHP6 release which 'ZTS', 'mysql' and the like could be formally sorted out? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk