Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65396 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77742 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 14:21:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 14:21:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.173 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.173 mail-vc0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.173] ([209.85.220.173:50197] helo=mail-vc0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/7E-10721-60BD7015 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:21:59 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id fy7so293051vcb.18 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:21:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=duFdc9LAM3KivuExy2Cce8fqOu5Deq+WyURF8/z6l2g=; b=gR58JLZAJpWz1J4dYmnv1VVNX9SbocnVpzSQgEt/1GRAXlpQFNZfYh0G5RImKGVyND zsalBR9T+UhU1avqKzUbJS+TnbcZx+Z2aknesKEXXojZApJ1hro9bawhzbdIHaWuLaLY iK/oDhZLmyzqDZqQrAiCnINqktGyPceJcU4A0tboJa4ZMq1Vc7oAx5J+5JBsvw89rNiz esOJDrZRSwlYJhVwq/c6rhqxEsmP0EePZ9yTHICKY12oB8UrRiA0Y/IkVFesDJjBpOuO rASLu7wya9/SqImiLtw2tAF56aarieF3iFRtKqPytVPYSpD2pI8KuJvTIp1uqipE1rG2 oskg== X-Received: by 10.52.96.198 with SMTP id du6mr958592vdb.104.1359469316012; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.200.148] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dl18sm8502333vdb.2.2013.01.29.06.21.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:21:55 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5107DB01.6050900@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 06:21:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130106 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikita Popov CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <5d21b42656d49b4a71d9f808541bd745@mail.gmail.com> <252ADB1A-2660-4A45-B859-B92DA2C8B8D8@gmail.com> <5107CEEB.9080003@zerocue.com> <5107D429.60001@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkZQyJjOd46ymennRf2KxxDmPETneuCQCVO7Qi4QUbqHhS//oZciDihMmwdW01lL8I91Ew7 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 01/29/2013 06:13 AM, Nikita Popov wrote: > I'm not sure I fully understand this. The RFC claims that Optimizer+ is > already *now* fully compatible with PHP 5.5. And that it was also > compatible when PHP 5.4 was released. So they lack of a working and free > opcode cache clearly wasn't the issue. My guess is rather that the lack > of APC support (as in specifically APC and not just some opcode cache) > was an issue. Either because people didn't know about alternatives (APC > after all is the go-to opcode cache), didn't want to try them or had > software tightly integrated with APC (and in particular its user cache). Closed source isn't an option for many sites.