Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65378 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51461 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2013 13:30:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2013 13:30:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.47 mail-la0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.47] ([209.85.215.47:45231] helo=mail-la0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/A8-10721-1EEC7015 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:30:09 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fj20so285022lab.6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:30:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pcnpeShhagWQMinp6ZUIuYDmUs230kRYFeQXmaIweOI=; b=pQZr1CYX/Fs2Yn98HqFaaX6/zolIbIE/T5Ua7PbbdFzihJ/YiusCU71gvOxkOKrmaB SlnWFavlYIW6yqRtUSN+ZaIlv3H1soXWC+h7nEENEcLvUTlUyK9v6d+IwAwEaBdJ17qL Q8v8hDujUu0P8EDrSfdfJjZ+k2H1GW81m4ENKHice61AvtWb9b05NYFluj3L/zkbb56Q xysjy2ESRMcPNTzCq4nL77PIZpt7kfwGDCaZyQwTyQA5CPMNrj5BlndhfxXgltsc1tqH looFbD+4nQSY6HMkIFAVv+bMCv74khZrwN/V+QcMPT1E3LK1Z0T7grogPM5DvERyo6we 95Yg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.83.133 with SMTP id q5mr499925lby.40.1359466205554; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:30:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.2.69 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 05:30:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5d21b42656d49b4a71d9f808541bd745@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:30:05 +0100 Message-ID: To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote= : > Hi Zeev > > 2013/1/29 Zeev Suraski : >> In parallel we=92re in the process of prepping the source code for >> independent public consumption, which I hope we can be done with by the = end >> of next week, hopefully sooner. > > I'm sorry, but I don't see why we out of a sudden should consider > adding a Zend product to the core, over that we got already, yes I'm > pointing in APC's direction, although it is in PECL. > I'm not trying to bring in this skepticism here because I'm, a > previous APC dev, but mostly because I do not think this is the right > move. Why? Because we tried to push APC from PECL into the Core since > early 5.x, It is not done yet. But given that the code is clean and easily maintainable, it could be much more efficient for us to focus on one extension and make it rock instead of trying to get each of them work well. As Rasmus stated, between the opcode/engine and the way such extensions work, we only have a handful of developers able to work on them, and not full time. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye