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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods
From: larry@garfieldtech.com (Larry Garfield)

On 01/29/2013 01:30 AM, Ryan McCue wrote:
>> If Wordpress announced that it was going to start requiring PHP 5.3 as
>> of some date 6+ months in the future (and there are advantages to doing
>> so that don't require major BC breaking rewrites), I think you'd see a
>> rather significant abandonment of PHP 5.2 among hosts. Many other major
>> projects already have.  I would be rather surprised if Drupal 9 doesn't
>> require PHP 5.4.  (Drupal 8, currently in development, is very solidly
>> PHP 5.3.)
> Here's hoping that Drupal can lead that push with the major hosts. 5.2
> on 66% of hosts is ridiculous, and I'm personally sick of having to
> backport things to 5.2. GoPHP5 was a *fantastic* effort and benefited WP
> immensely even if we weren't directly involved.

It's great to hear you say that, given that the messaging coming out of 
WP at the time was rather hostile. :-)

> Most of the WordPress committers don't see much advantage with pushing
> to 5.3 though, so it's doubtful that we'll lead that charge. (Late
> static binding is probably the only thing that they would see as useful,
> but WP doesn't use many static methods.)

I don't know much if anything about WP internals, but in my experience 
with Drupal 8 LSB is about the only 5.3 feature that hasn't mattered to 
us.  Namespaces/PSR-0 and closures have been very helpful.  LSB not so 
much, but then I'm pleased to say we have very little static method use 
in the first place.

> This all said, the internal dynamics of the WordPress core developers
> are always changing, and views are definitely becoming less
> conservative. I don't think you'll see us targeting 5.4 any time soon,
> but 5.3 is a possibility. I've been talking to a few contacts from the
> big hosts in the WP space and it seems like they've all got 5.3
> upgrading in the pipeline.

Maybe next year it will be time for a GoPHP5.5 project. :-) Hopefully by 
then WP will have become less conservative enough to join the effort.

--Larry Garfield