Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65306 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8129 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 22:11:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 22:11:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=patrick.allaert@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=patrick.allaert@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.83.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: patrick.allaert@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.83.46 mail-ee0-f46.google.com Received: from [74.125.83.46] ([74.125.83.46:33709] helo=mail-ee0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 89/4F-28517-C87F6015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:11:25 -0500 Received: by mail-ee0-f46.google.com with SMTP id e49so1535053eek.5 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:11:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=GpUlVU7OlaizTO0wgzM9P4XU7xVYF9Jy51AHTTG/FYY=; b=WKsEl92A4qD19qsImcKk9kfMlMI1K92Mt7z8Tsb5C2FOp6VtlrqPF4UiCuj4LgAVcd xpT+s+oMJdJwAnXaMHqCG6EGqRllDet9q9gCtFM7iPGONkb5/ygdChmM12XK4ZPF5k+F jlGUiCP5vfySJJOCAjc9aScbR40ETZGwtAhR+9GFvQTYSKO+3LqM7XpcGClAwA51LD+x 6/2LeHWrNxy3GTcWwlhazS4BYhA07X9nRpQQjFmGjOCJh5qOUVwKyrHpocrChpJvIEqt u/zzykMFOdGXBrzssZys7lMyun1oL/OiQHWCp94vIRTjDQi1Zs/eIZC8hWTQdKjU4pmv IA7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.14.174.73 with SMTP id w49mr56383228eel.17.1359411081315; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:11:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: patrick.allaert@gmail.com Received: by 10.14.119.66 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 14:11:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8443b1f0eaec6316a3e5791c097d5c49@mail.gmail.com> References: <8443b1f0eaec6316a3e5791c097d5c49@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:11:21 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ed4AT-2K-wgdYqcdRxczB7ZZhio Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Anthony Ferrara , PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Purpose of voting From: patrickallaert@php.net (Patrick ALLAERT) 2013/1/28 Zeev Suraski : >> What should we be voting on when voting on an RFC: on the RFC proposed >> feature, or on the patch itself? > > I think it should be exclusively on the concept. We never vote about code > changes anywhere - including when we refactor existing parts. Why would > we vote about the implementation here? Just to +1 Zeev's opinion here. It's perfectly valid to accept an RFC and comment on the implementation on what should be improved or what sucks in it. If one is voting "no" mostly because of the implementation, then I would say that there is a lack of information in the voting process when saying "no". (No why... ?) Side node: whatever the formal "process" we will use we will always have to be flexible enough to listen to each other and not falling into bureaucracy too much. Patrick