Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65300 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91962 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 20:05:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 20:05:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.185 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.185 c2beaomr07.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.185] ([213.123.26.185:49447] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/8C-28517-EE9D6015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:05:03 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr07.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KMW09005; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:05:00 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <5106D9EA.7070807@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:04:58 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <76a9565b2a095a72063a68f106a6b457@mail.gmail.com> <5ed6711b24349c82b7c17dd450ff7c80@mail.gmail.com> <7165e8331e1070234771f7ae9573cdf8@mail.gmail.com> <5106690E.6040908@zerocue.com> <510679E0.1050603@zerocue.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0303.5106D9EA.0024, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.1.28.194816:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_1000_1099, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr07.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B020C.5106D9EC.0028:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Zeev Suraski wrote: > PHP has become the most popular Web language in existence WITHOUT these > features. Most users couldn't care less about them. They're happy > without them. They're happ*ier* without them. They'd rather a faster PHP > that did exactly the same thing it does today - and not a slower one with > more features that's more difficult to learn and debug. The whole concept > of 'WE MUST ADD THIS TO PHP OR ELSE' is ludicrous in my opinion. PHP is > doing well, and many of the people who opposed this RFC are responsible > for steering it that way. Nicely put Zeev ... I would add though ... most users have no idea how to rewrite the code they are using to cope with the deprecated warnings? Somebody has to find time to do it for them :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk