Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65272 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47938 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 17:19:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 17:19:48 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.181 mail-lb0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.181] ([209.85.217.181:60104] helo=mail-lb0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E7/63-28517-333B6015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 12:19:48 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id gm6so4255247lbb.12 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:19:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i2a+M8N1halD+NKHoQHOLQ/iMaSE5QOhOrQ7of6MWSo=; b=TBQiBW6hcETRsj8vvR+Ha9GyM9HAo1pvRSIt+WnXKIN3MIDQ1ASRZNW/LtfszWu2xv XDcxnmeW0Oa/z/Nn3PoqcvcqAuG7aJid8zWGXqj6QbfOsc2y9VqFd49EPi4rcQRT4Y4G nBoLns918UUUN7Ef2i7CKRlLPkQcsvuheACL6USCLJHWZ3WCILrdpxnQQ3DGyfpyZ4FQ S81gtxolriIbgQfBnHIWaZxXtje1gHXX/m130OsoONCfCUPA62ga9w3ipqTQAxvq/fAv a++v5a8dGRw8IqyG9gxyf+uKj/aw+iD7oBLeiF3UoDsivelbcH8pwBVywAyckJe70Te1 0++g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.105.103 with SMTP id gl7mr13856903lab.41.1359393584069; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:19:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.2.69 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.2.69 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:19:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <76a9565b2a095a72063a68f106a6b457@mail.gmail.com> <5ed6711b24349c82b7c17dd450ff7c80@mail.gmail.com> <7165e8331e1070234771f7ae9573cdf8@mail.gmail.com> <5106690E.6040908@zerocue.com> <510679E0.1050603@zerocue.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 18:19:43 +0100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Peter Cowburn , PHP internals , Clint Priest Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d040714a7b03bda04d45c7b6a Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --f46d040714a7b03bda04d45c7b6a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Jan 28, 2013 6:07 PM, "Zeev Suraski" > The community that participates in internals isn't necessarily > representative of the community at large. > Letzten me clarify my view. I do not attend hyped conferences, because I want to meet are not there. However I meet a lot of our "silent" community, inside companies, customers, non PHP specific conferences, UGs, schools (for active ppl), etc. My opinion and my certitude about this feature are based on the feedback of these people. However, projects leaders have the same feedbacks from their users, that says all. I think many of us are purely and simply totally out of sync with our users. I have no immediate solution but this is something we must solve, now. --f46d040714a7b03bda04d45c7b6a--