Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65269 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41778 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 16:42:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 16:42:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.42 mail-oa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.42] ([209.85.219.42:58951] helo=mail-oa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B9/32-28517-19AA6015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:42:58 -0500 Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j1so3012043oag.1 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:42:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nAcpkVnFvGo/z+S3vUWNrI9IxBJcTxJj6VlyCaNdDKI=; b=iytCBePm0D7OSLnzC9fT4YS9T251ewyOZOGSzUgZPADtaV4pwlnxQLdTSvyOsXfCVk 9AEDhHndN3VVB1OX7ynGwUrcgTzB14Xq9uB2LuuVwYXnk1Jg9s30ja/cFeLA0YJnsy0A D7aFNjyrlxlM9Bzj0sEhgHil7sB2isgyYDR+SshXYAN14WOrsoPZ4eaOykwLbtJfKtuk P22fhEhe2X/nhTqHrAhV5ISOYUGwDkBIORGSPxmutS3BOJAXa0B0ZacaooFBeA3PtZpI n2Fq90rgXGTWOYcJJ5I59OaPiujSUGGQ9eB+PkWhiEGTtfUSfhawX5KKfQi/9YWtQeI8 dqEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.21.167 with SMTP id w7mr11569319oee.18.1359391374841; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.96.236 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 08:42:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <510679E0.1050603@zerocue.com> References: <76a9565b2a095a72063a68f106a6b457@mail.gmail.com> <5ed6711b24349c82b7c17dd450ff7c80@mail.gmail.com> <7165e8331e1070234771f7ae9573cdf8@mail.gmail.com> <5106690E.6040908@zerocue.com> <510679E0.1050603@zerocue.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 09:42:54 -0700 Message-ID: To: Clint Priest Cc: Peter Cowburn , Zeev Suraski , Pierre Joye , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Voting periods From: morrison.levi@gmail.com (Levi Morrison) I also disagree with an open-ended voting period. I'm fine with having a long voting window, but when a vote is called it should declare when the voting will end. This just makes sense to me. Since we're on the topic of voting, I also want to bring up that 50% + 1 is actually pretty low for something that doesn't modify the core. For instance, suppose that the voting on an RFC ended with exactly a 50% + 1 vote in favor of adding the feature. That means that half of the people who voted did not want it to go through. That seems like a problem to me; half of the people were against it yet it is accepted and introduced to the language? Maybe I'm used to working in councils that require near unanimity, but 50% + 1 seems very, very low. If we're going to revisit voting, can we re-discuss this as well?