Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65256 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21687 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 15:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 15:30:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.174 mail-ob0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.174] ([209.85.214.174:60348] helo=mail-ob0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0F/ED-28517-79996015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:30:31 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id 16so2852497obc.19 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:30:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-mailer :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=+5luV3Sastn/PubN7WLSDmKUgO8oAVW+1OEqb++W7jA=; b=e0yH9YIse2BGVXuhiJzOF5jwaYO/0scVX79OES5qg6aZ+TmjnYLMOU39V3iQtTsV4b Y0uyIEO2LG/blzRBPXZUWrQPEyQUvqaUYFrJpD6YzvaIQXI3rrIjAmhWDQOuX9V35K+K brYWlFEUbWdLLqf3j0cQyxr/ve8Jw91tCpyjXHUOVnKynpCrn6RoYfd4s37nRTYLWcVb Sr+RidGOkUla3qQZ5/FEaP+Pm4m33qxnHnDFdkYVyaLH/gDS5taic6001/v2H6bI3fE6 ZccGIKaa1+OvW/bCyuhhfFkGE8iMWzql6Y09A95Kyvuv/ZkwpodAxMrW7m7wWyJKNE7q upAw== X-Received: by 10.182.17.70 with SMTP id m6mr2874337obd.39.1359387028375; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:30:28 -0800 (PST) References: <1460659e-237d-4c7c-8cfa-523ec857d646@email.android.com> In-Reply-To: <1460659e-237d-4c7c-8cfa-523ec857d646@email.android.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQFvKJzzK5NHNcd9o6NPNThI8li5VwHdwAgiAgQ+MdAB/AW5LgIN5nOxmN0nqqA= Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:30:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: Alan Knowles , Gustavo Lopes , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk/D2lbMOITCy3YI8nuKlNV/NHilw4Np/56NECuQdu2dRF8cq4ESILGktlOgIsS4e/2L+NjXTAlBtB5n6WXpm7May+tyYF0RCPYdfwbLMvxYq5hHSYALZxeFmjs5YZXQ9rfFJRx Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate and remove calls from incompatible context From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Knowles [mailto:alan@roojs.com] > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 4:49 PM > To: Gustavo Lopes; PHP Internals; Alan Knowles > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate and remove calls from incompatible > context > > I was trying to vote against, for what it's worth. > > It's a major bc break with no obvious value, and what appears to be 7 days > given to vote when every one is busy discussing a new property syntax. > > Traits is cute, but this was a amazing feature of the PHP language, not > obvious, > but it's pretty similar to Javascript, not sure why it would be so > confusing..... > > Sorry for being contrary, but i was a but shocked that this was.going to > be > removed Alan, Can you explain why you think it's a major BC break? The RFC suggested that the BC break would be minimal and that the likelihood a lot of people used it is very low. If you think differently and share it it might put it in a different light. Zeev