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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:03:29 +0100
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To: Alan Knowles <alan@roojs.com>
Cc: Gustavo Lopes <glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate and remove calls from incompatible context
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Alan Knowles <alan@roojs.com> wrote:

> I was trying to vote against, for what it's worth.
>

trying to re-open the vote and voting after Gustavo announced that the
voting was closed?
that's sounds a little bit weird.


>
> It's a major bc break with no obvious value, and what appears to be 7 day=
s
> given to vote when every one is busy discussing a new property syntax.
>

personally I don't think it is a major BC break, AFAIR it is an
undocumented feature, it is marked by E_STRICT, and for the next release
this change will be only bumping from E_STRICT to E_DEPRECATED so anybody
out there depending on this will be notified and has time to deal with the
issue before the next release after 5.5.
closing the votes after 7 days is fine, and I think it wasn't closed to
rush the decision but it seemed that nobody was against it.


>
> Traits is cute, but this was a amazing feature of the PHP language, not
> obvious, but it's pretty similar to Javascript, not sure why it would be =
so
> confusing.....
>

because $this doesn't make sense in a static call, and assuming the caller
methods scope isn't something what you would guess beforehand trying it out=
.
it is unintuitive and you will be surprised that it works when you first
encounter this.


>
> Sorry for being contrary, but i was a but shocked that this was.going to
> be removed
>

I think that if you have concerns it is better to talk it over so if we
missed something then it will brought forth.

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