Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65252 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15223 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 15:01:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 15:01:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain nebm.ist.utl.pt from 193.136.128.21 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt X-Host-Fingerprint: 193.136.128.21 smtp1.ist.utl.pt Linux 2.6 Received: from [193.136.128.21] ([193.136.128.21:51815] helo=smtp1.ist.utl.pt) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/9C-28517-1E296015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:01:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id C553D700042E; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:50 +0000 (WET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.6.4 (20090625) (Debian) at ist.utl.pt Received: from smtp1.ist.utl.pt ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.ist.utl.pt [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10025) with LMTP id 8mgKloSO5YqS; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:50 +0000 (WET) Received: from mail2.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [IPv6:2001:690:2100:1::8]) by smtp1.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC3A7000424; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:50 +0000 (WET) Received: from damnation.nl.lo.geleia.net (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:94a2:4:21d:baff:feee:cc0b]) (Authenticated sender: ist155741) by mail2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 92C06200848A; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:01:49 +0000 (WET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: "PHP Internals" , "Alan Knowles" References: <1460659e-237d-4c7c-8cfa-523ec857d646@email.android.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:01:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: =?utf-8?Q?N=C3=BAcleo_de_Eng=2E_Biom=C3=A9di?= =?utf-8?Q?ca_do_I=2ES=2ET=2E?= Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1460659e-237d-4c7c-8cfa-523ec857d646@email.android.com> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.12 (Linux) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Deprecate and remove calls from incompatible context From: glopes@nebm.ist.utl.pt ("Gustavo Lopes") On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:49:26 +0100, Alan Knowles wrote: > I was trying to vote against, for what it's worth. > > It's a major bc break with no obvious value, and what appears to be 7 > days given to vote when every one is busy discussing a new property > syntax. > > Traits is cute, but this was a amazing feature of the PHP language, not > obvious, but it's pretty similar to Javascript, not sure why it would be > so confusing..... > > Sorry for being contrary, but i was a but shocked that this was.going to > be removed > You had more than 6 months to voice your concerns. There was a discussion when the feature was proposed during summer. I'm sorry you did not notice it, but I can't be spamming the list every once in a while to maximize the number of people that are aware of what's going on. Concerns about voting periods not having an upper bound notwithstanding, there was nothing remotely irregular about the way the process was conducted. I therefore find your comments about "sneaking this in" rather odd. Blame yourself instead. Again, I'm not commenting on the merits. -- Gustavo Lopes