Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65226 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62335 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2013 09:22:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2013 09:22:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.169 mail-ob0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.169] ([209.85.214.169:47290] helo=mail-ob0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 45/63-28517-F6346015 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 04:22:56 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ta14so2553907obb.14 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:22:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:mime-version:x-mailer:thread-index:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ad+qoT2Bo9tNdeNDVxZ3hPyE7TGY10TvvdqOhkVyavU=; b=Gm9DbYtAGwjhF9BDpVLcOdP44VOVvu0XZN+wiPYnR7Kk5ixgmENk/gohE9PwRh8m2R 8mn81cy303eeRyMZ67efDUiYYDwFERqEt7LMYCwe+WGESKAH1RQ0GbmQjopw7wA8s8aQ wkTXljiz1+FlU6WJbtPK/ZXpjA59EhFxEB5qEFM8QF2QsIPf3z82XkDMcxpTm2Gs49zR z5oJCJWw4cUwURCuO++p2biGmPC04rwTfQlXlOmVs7e8xYMlGDPTJJ2zh5/tsdwJeF02 ywVCqwwSPB5Lz6czDEnH6LD1n1HUbdsZlRwMP8knirmrey5uqP29tQL7aWU9XXa0+I4P sIYw== X-Received: by 10.60.31.179 with SMTP id b19mr6040688oei.16.1359364973397; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 01:22:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac39OMS44WjfMPE2TCCrfh+2xuJi8Q== Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:52 +0200 Message-ID: <76a9565b2a095a72063a68f106a6b457@mail.gmail.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fbd85c066a04d455d2d7 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmnMSfk4tZxYHm+fKV7DvLsRk68vpGGGGZl6gXl55zfSweGsRQQj9k+R/aMplTuzNteWPtc+fuUxF1d+T7Ry33EnrwR2XXo6h5KGClD710N4Fot1AoJDWZ6qQgUy8Inq6PqJ934 Subject: Voting periods From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) --e89a8fb1fbd85c066a04d455d2d7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, There=E2=80=99s something that I=E2=80=99m not quite following regarding op= en votes. Why are we saying that =E2=80=98votes will end no sooner than X=E2=80=99, i= nstead of actually saying when they *will* end? If there=E2=80=99s no clear end date for a vote, when do we declare than a = vote is over? Is it in a specific point in time where the vote happens to be in favor with what the proposer wanted? The specific case in point is https://wiki.php.net/rfc/propertygetsetsyntax-v1.2 - which while has more supporters than opposers, consistent fell short of the 2/3 majority it needs to be approved. The vote should have ended on Wednesday =E2=80=93 4 = days ago, but for some reason it=E2=80=99s still open. It=E2=80=99s time to clo= se it. My suggestion is for voting periods to be limited to one week, regardless of the topic. It should be more than enough. Regardless, an =E2=80=98open= ended=E2=80=99 voting period is unacceptable IMHO. Zeev --e89a8fb1fbd85c066a04d455d2d7--