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Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 11:31:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: Upcoming Feature Freeze for PHP 5.5.0
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

hi Anthony,

On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmaxell@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pierre et al,
>
>> I would prefer to have it in pecl and merge once ready/cleaned up.
>> Yes, same idea than with APC, except that it could be faster (for what
>> I read, waiting to see the sources). Also we can review and do the
>> changes more easily.
>
>
> Well, I think the one issue with doing it in PECL first is that it prevents
> some deeper engine integration that could benefit the implementation
> significantly.
>
> With that said, I think it's a bit too tight to try to merge this in for the
> 5.5 beta freeze. Given the current RFC process requires a minimum of 2 weeks
> (1 of comments and 1 of voting), it feels tight. I'm not saying that I think
> we should stick to the numbers hard in this particular case, but  it's also
> not a trivial patch, and I feel that rushing wouldn't be the best idea.
>
> So with that said, may I suggest that we add 1 more round of Alpha to the
> 5.5 release cycle, with the specific intent of merging this in (assuming the
> implementation goes well). So we'd be talking about adding approximately 2
> weeks to the cycle, but it would ease the time and  implementation pressures
> that could otherwise cause issues. I think this feature is worth pushing 5.5
> back slightly, but at the same time not delaying it indefinitely until this
> gets in. So if in 4 weeks (the time until the beta, under this strategy)
> this isn't ready, it wouldn't make 5.5. But at the same time it gives us
> enough time to implement it, understand the implementation and make a
> decision that's based on a concrete implementation than an "in-progress"
> one.
>
> Thoughts?

It sounds good to me.

However I would still like to have it in pecl so we can improve for
php 5.3/4 as well. Or we will have to duplicate the efforts between
APC and optimizer for the next years.

Cheers,
--
Pierre

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