Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65205 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78716 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2013 08:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2013 08:40:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=julienpauli@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=julienpauli@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.175 mail-ve0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.175] ([209.85.128.175:61471] helo=mail-ve0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F2/00-12745-A8693015 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:40:43 -0500 Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id db12so564526veb.20 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:40:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=M0jTbFFKi3f1ocl2ykFIishPRaHYrB+ZwM8xPfzFczU=; b=lZbq0qMgSOjjMONbKU3TBVpib3rEFKUSajb7QyzQ4NLS9tiP+Usa+fnnh2i68oO2Mi agD/8axNtYZ4SdCetim6jzKdRW/hki/yA20z4YKLHBfEfZOOuVSbQ4kU3IcLrpXKE/Bb JI6VuwJ5C+m69OcwDe9qZU/MebgjIJ1VUO7Riq0fnTFFcWGH+Pt30IvqH9woL1tky2t4 xoR4QTdr6ArcSf17cPriW8ZZRAIWDYCypWS1u6lu9KaCtDuIdfNpHXwhSISc+xPE9ICy cIJ5ZUsS+yHeV8zDXWkcuawWkf8OYQ5hBTbzsiOPnZBlBBf7EbwW10UFgm0ut+gOWbfY lfhQ== X-Received: by 10.52.180.200 with SMTP id dq8mr7686104vdc.71.1359189639763; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:40:39 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.140.132 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jan 2013 00:39:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <51023AB1.2010607@b1-systems.de> <51024016.4010005@lerdorf.com> <5102D2A1.3040105@sugarcrm.com> <8995783a3f4c211d32022028445e7a60@mail.gmail.com> <5102D4C1.9020003@lerdorf.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 09:39:58 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: G_pRRiL4XYaegBvG_OPXOWBToPs Message-ID: To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: Pierre Joye , Rasmus Lerdorf , Zeev Suraski , Stas Malyshev , Ralf Lang , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec517ab26a9173404d42cff06 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: Upcoming Feature Freeze for PHP 5.5.0 From: jpauli@php.net (Julien Pauli) --bcaec517ab26a9173404d42cff06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Pierre et al, > > I would prefer to have it in pecl and merge once ready/cleaned up. > > Yes, same idea than with APC, except that it could be faster (for what > > I read, waiting to see the sources). Also we can review and do the > > changes more easily. > > > Well, I think the one issue with doing it in PECL first is that it prevents > some deeper engine integration that could benefit the implementation > significantly. > > With that said, I think it's a bit too tight to try to merge this in for > the 5.5 beta freeze. Given the current RFC process requires a minimum of 2 > weeks (1 of comments and 1 of voting), it feels tight. I'm not saying that > I think we should stick to the numbers hard in this particular case, but > it's also not a trivial patch, and I feel that rushing wouldn't be the > best idea. > > So with that said, may I suggest that we add 1 more round of Alpha to the > 5.5 release cycle, with the specific intent of merging this in (assuming > the implementation goes well). So we'd be talking about adding > approximately 2 weeks to the cycle, but it would ease the time and > implementation pressures that could otherwise cause issues. I think this > feature is worth pushing 5.5 back slightly, but at the same time not > delaying it indefinitely until this gets in. So if in 4 weeks (the time > until the beta, under this strategy) this isn't ready, it wouldn't make > 5.5. But at the same time it gives us enough time to implement it, > understand the implementation and make a decision that's based on a > concrete implementation than an "in-progress" one. > > Thoughts? > I'm ok with that, that's safe and clean :) Julien.P --bcaec517ab26a9173404d42cff06--