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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:48:39 +0200
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: Upcoming Feature Freeze for PHP 5.5.0
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:42 PM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf; Ralf Lang; PHP internals
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] HEADS UP: Upcoming Feature Freeze for PHP 5.5.0
>
> hi Zeev,
>
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> >> Either by a number of people stepping up to help with the existing
> >> APC
> > code, or
> >> perhaps more realistically making it a priority in PHP 5.6 to
> >> streamline
> > the
> >> engine and the executor for opcode caching and either including a
> > heavily
> >> simplified version of APC or writing a new one.
> >>
> >> One thing I can guarantee is that if we add it to core in its current
> > condition it
> >> will delay 5.5 by 6+ months if not longer.
> >
> > There's another option.  We have the Optimizer+ component which is
> > current, a bit faster than APC, worked with PHP 5.4 from the get go
> > and already fully supports 5.5 - and now that it's been free for use
> > for several years, we'd actually be happy to opensource it and make it
> > a part of core.  An extra benefit would be that we'd commit to
> > maintain it, although of course, community contribution will be very
welcome.
> > Here too, it's code with a very long history, some of which even
> > predates PHP 4.0.  But It Works(tm), and we could put some effort into
> > cleaning it up and beautifying it.
>
> Thanks, That sounds great.
>
> > I think we can actually do it on time for 5.5.0, or with a relatively
> > minor delay that might be worth it.  I'm sure most users would prefer
> > the version to take a bit longer if it comes with an opcode cache
> > right off the bat.
> > There'll most probably be APIs we'd want to merge from APC, but doing
> > that should be easy - and we can get the good of both worlds.
>
> Please don't bring over the user cache, please don't :-)

Sounds like there's concensus we don't want these things coupled, so we
should probably handle that part separately :)

>
> Quesiton: Does it support both NTS and TS?

I think it used to but if it did that part hasn't been maintained for a
very long time.  Not sure where it stands right now...

Zeev