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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] C# properties vs. accessors RFC
From: nathan@starin.biz

>Personally, I don't see why 'default' can't be used:

>class Foo {
>    public $bar { get; set; default 5; } }
>
>This solves the var_dump() problem, and if people want dynamic get
returning something other than the property/field value, so be it.
>C# does indeed have an internal field per property though, even if it is an
anonymous backing field.

Is there a reason we cannot just have var_dump/print_r show it more like
this?

object(Time)#1 (2) {
  ["seconds"]=>
  int(16200)
  ["hours"]=>
  NULL
  ["hours:getter"]=>
  float(4.5)
}

(Although I am against the idea of having a *hidden* value accessible inside
the getter/setter)