Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:65081 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69968 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2013 12:48:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2013 12:48:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.187 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.187 c2beaomr09.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.187] ([213.123.26.187:35655] helo=mail.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 89/46-28294-B8A8EF05 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 07:48:12 -0500 Received: from host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com (EHLO _10.0.0.5_) ([81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr09.btconnect.com with ESMTP id KLB97026; Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:48:09 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <50FE8A89.80307@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:48:09 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <50F840F4.7080704@zerocue.com> <50FE7579.1010409@zerocue.com> <50FE7933.8010000@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Fair-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A0B0301.50FE8A89.0012, actions=tag X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=7/50, refid=2.7.2:2013.1.22.121817:17:7.944, ip=81.138.11.136, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __CTE, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_MAILTO, __URI_NO_WWW, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, BODY_ENDS_IN_URL, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr09.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0203.50FE8A89.0053:SCFSTAT14830815,ss=1,re=-4.000,fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=multiengine X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Property Accessors for 5.5 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Sebastian Krebs wrote: > Clint Priest wrote: > > There seems to be a lot of userland support for this proposal from > people who > don't have voting rights. > > And what about the userland people who don't want the additional complexity > who don't have voting rights? > > Don't use it. Regarding your other mails you are stuck with 5.2 anyway ;) No I'm committed now to converting everything to PHP5.4 which given the amount of work involved is going to take a couple of years, but does not give any 'improvement' to the resulting projects. Just as the latest changes will only mean that we need to maintain PHP5.4 versions of libraries to prevent creep if these developments into those libraries. 'Don't use it' is simply not an acceptable argument when things added in one version become more integrated in the next as has happened between php5.2->3->4 and now 5.5 will take this even further. We NEED to nail down a clean base before changing the rules yet again ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk