Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64853 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95843 invoked from network); 11 Jan 2013 07:51:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jan 2013 07:51:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lang@b1-systems.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lang@b1-systems.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain b1-systems.de from 217.11.58.35 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lang@b1-systems.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.11.58.35 mx1.b1-systems.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.11.58.35] ([217.11.58.35:41784] helo=mx1.b1-systems.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C1/68-02684-684CFE05 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:51:34 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.17] (cable-82-119-8-98.cust.telecolumbus.net [82.119.8.98]) by mx1.b1-systems.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CD8D4084 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:51:31 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <50EFC482.6020801@b1-systems.de> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:51:30 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <50EDBEA5.1050201@sugarcrm.com> <50EE5DAF.2080901@sugarcrm.com> <50EF2195.3080907@sugarcrm.com> <50EF49AF.9050801@b1-systems.de> <48412E0A-3FCC-440D-8479-39B666EB7213@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Was Reflection annotations reader - We Need A Vision From: lang@b1-systems.de (Ralf Lang) Am 11.01.2013 05:55, schrieb dukeofgaming: > I have a question, maybe it is dumb: why not those opposed to using > annotations just... refrain from using them? > Although I am not the least against annotations, there are valid and good technical reasons why one does not want to have a feature in the language. As Rasmus said, the code for annotations also needs to interface with opcode caches and other core and close-to-core technologies. This will require additional development and maint. time/manpower. This is a finite resource, there is a tradeoff between expensive new language features like annotations and other stuff which needs to be done. You can probably not have both at the same time. > Finally, I remember the lack of support for development has been a > problem... so why not call out for support to the community?, from GSoC to > PHP gurus litterate on Comp Sci and software engineering and architecture? I think this has been done before and most who stay and contribute over time have come here by their own means. -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer