Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:64810 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41462 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2013 09:21:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Jan 2013 09:21:58 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.44 mail-la0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.44] ([209.85.215.44:48506] helo=mail-la0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/A4-02684-3388EE05 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 04:21:56 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so312756lab.31 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:21:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Fs/aWLdPMws4rI6aqBGg5hwtMO1xPR+wRQL+Dcl0v5A=; b=HOE1jFyZZjwkXvkb+O/i/1mzPZcIFk4ljEmRm6569crijs/jFiUoNaxXEm8ABZfHLx BVHAS7GV07bLIRpJ4FdcjYC2QplQ9LjKO89ff5sK1D+QggQWJV1Ge5jh82E1WhSJB7kh Qtj67e5ITnyT9vgSOOu/fmYqOJLl3hUzL8kL9QartmcZAHUDDXi/wfWTorI3nrGDjtTP d8x+Qu2m/IaQznStMSvI3ahBDkEgGrGzCHsDpLy2jxm+HatRVnWWslwNC2QNcjsjswzC DCO2RyU7IqbUEnVTNSMcZ2WWrVOYFj+H2Ap/LssSgsT7NT5gNeVvzCmpfP3bfTKmRKa3 DDdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.122.39 with SMTP id lp7mr68185811lab.0.1357809712422; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:21:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.127.230 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:21:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 10:21:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: Nate Tuganov Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] A remark about PHP's Vision and new things. From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Nate Tuganov wrote: > PHP is great for web development, let's stick to it. Give us a chance to > create frameworks, which can use Annotations, DI, IoC, Factories, > Decorators and all others patterns to allow regular designer to create a > simple site with few lines of code. That's exactly what annotations are for. Avoid writing the same code over and over, define behavior using annotation. I strongly suggest to anyone following the (too many) threads about annotations to try the C# annotation and see what it allows. It goes really far and greatly simplify developments and implementations of web services (by all meaning of this word). And I very strongly recommend it to anyone who never used or tried annotation, it will help us to move further and move out of the current rhetoric (both sides). -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://blog.thepimp.net | http://www.libgd.org